Wednesday, November 28, 2012

AFTER the Tribulation

My husband has been working with filmmaker Paul Wittenberger (What in the World Are They Spraying? and The Great Culling - Our Water) on a documentary about the end times. "After the Tribulation" is coming out on December 21, 2012. 




Also featured in the documentary are Pastor Roger Jimenez and creation scientist Dr. Kent Hovind.   The voice-over is read by Dr. Roland Rasmussen, pastor emeritus at Faith Baptist Church in Canoga Park, CA), who published a book debunking the imminent return of Christ.
You can pre-order the DVD here - it is guaranteed to arrive by Christmas! Go ahead, get one as a gift to give to your pre-tribulational pastor and church friends. Let's get this hoax of "Jesus can come back at any minute!" and "Christians will not suffer any persecution!" cleared up!





Dr. Hovind gave up on the pre-tribulation rapture theory (which he had believed for decades) after studying the issue while in prison. The interviews with him in this documentary were done over the phone, as he remains incarcerated even to this day.

Should you wish to see the documentary before the supposed end of the world on 12.21. (pfft...), our church is hosting a screening one week earlier, on Friday, December 14th, at 7 pm. If you live in the area, please join us!

There will also be several interviews on this topic. You can listen to one here, and here is another one coming up. I'll try to update once I find out about other ones.



For a playlist of "Post-trib Moments" that my husband has been releasing daily in advance of the documentary, click here






23 comments:

  1. What makes your husband an "expert" on Bible prophecy? Does he have a degree? Just curious :)

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    1. I am not part of this site or this church but my question why do you need a degree? how much apostol or prophet got a degree?

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  2. We will be ordering our copy for sure! Ha! I wonder what would happen if I bought a copy for our church library or pastor, since our church has a pre-trib belief of course..sigh. :( My husband and I keep talking about visiting your area and church next year and praying about a move there since it is you know..the best church in the world. :)We are also looking to get completely off the grid, are there any remote areas that are within an hour's drive to your church? I guess you could label us as early trib-preppers..as if we are not weird enough to the world already.

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  3. Exciting! I tried to pre-order the DVD as a Christmas gift for my husband a few days ago, but my PayPal was acting up...I'll try again in a few days. Though I realise that we probably won't get it in time for the 25th, being overseas, but I'm sure he'll enjoy it when it does come all the same.

    Thanks for sharing!

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  4. Woohoo, managed to get one pre-ordered for my husband! Can't wait! :)

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  5. Something I have wondered about. Are you peppers? It seems that if you thought things were going to get bad (and I think they are soon, if not because of the tribulation then from the horrible state our country is in) That you would make some preps for your large family. You have never mentioned it or suggested that anyone do that. Just wondering.

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  6. You guys believe the end of the world is on Dec 21st?

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  7. The Second Coming and the rapture are two separate events and if your husband did more than just memorize bible verses to show off his knowledge he would know this. Knowledge and wisdom are vastly different.

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  8. I'm always so excited to find other non-pre-tribbers! I came to Christ through the Calvary Chapel movement, which, as you know, is militantly pre-trib... so I became pre-trib too. Only problem - the more I read my Bible, the more I realized that every verse regarding end-times had to be either ignored or creatively re-interpreted to support a pre-trib view. I'd much rather have pre-trib, as it gets us all out before the unpleasantness, but I can no longer support or believe that view. Good luck with the video!

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  9. Not really anything to do with the post- BUT--

    The way your husband is paused on the intro video, he looks exactly like a pic I've seen of one of the boys! LOL I don't remember which boy it was though.

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  10. A parrot can recite Bible verses, that doesn't mean they are smart or understand it lol! Clearly you don't.

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  11. ive been witing for the tribulation all my 44 years.....sigh!! :(. Gods timing is larger than mine so i cant give in to my scoffing feeli gs too much, but it just gets old after a while.....but i still believe so ill carry on!!........ as a child i thought my mom was stockpiling food for the end times.....she was also wary of a invisible stamp thing we got at the skating rink-you had to put your hand undera light to see

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  12. continued-sorry...."under a light to see".......even in my 20s still living at home id be scared if i couldnt find my parents--scared that 'the rapture happened and i didnt go'.........horrible fear....;(. but it appears history has been full of horrible, fearful events.....:(. gods loving kingdom would be greatly appreciated!!! :/. i just dont understand it anymore--id like to believe gods wanting to restore things to a sincree state....but then the bible says people will be like the angels in heaven-not being married, so its very confusing....but hey, not to be too gross, but if i could be like an angel and not have to have a period anymore maybe itd be worth it....no potty breaks either-sorry--would just be nice to be in an eternal state sometime......just watched corrie ten booms movie The Hiding Place this week-saw it as a child-it scared and saddened me as a child-but i guess cruel things have been done in life since early history. i saw those 70s movies about the end times as a child-A Thief In The Night-scared me too. maybe i saw things at too young of an age......At what age do you start teaching your kids such things Zsu, and how do you calm their fears? just waiting for Gods Kingdom still.......without Jack Chick Tracts preferably.......

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  13. Although I don't agree with you on certain issues (a lot actually), I really enjoy seeing and hearing about your beautiful family.

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  14. Dear idiots, I mean Anonymouses,

    If he "did more than just memorize bible verses..." You mean like reading the entire Bible cover to cover many many times (as Pastor Anderson has done), which would would increase his chances of really knowing what it says and the correct interpretation. This is superior to the knowledge or "wisdom" (sneering) of any Bible "degree" graduate I know of.

    But I suppose you meant "did more" like go get some degrees from institutions that teach false doctrine, read some books that some human "scholar" wrote, or at least read the commentaries. After all, commentaries are found in nearly any Bible for crying out loud. If he doesn't even take the time to read those, then he must be an idiot. He is wasting all his time reading the actual WORDS of God and memorizing those insignificant Bible verses instead of studying man's ideas, so he can't possibly know anything! Right?

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  15. Hi,
    I don't live in the US and mail is very unreliable where I live. Any chance of purchasing a downloadable version of the film?
    Thanks,
    Kendra

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  16. Kent Hovind was taught the pre-trib rapture for years, but he never stood firm on either belief. In one of the trailors for the movie he even says he taught about creation and evolution for years but stayed away from the end times because he didn't understand it himself. So him standing firm on a belief now is not him changing a belief. It's him taking the time to study scripture, and find out what is true so he can stand on solid ground and be sure what he is believing is what the bible says and not mans tradition. 'm getting a little tired of people saying he believed it for years when i've watched as many of his seminars, and CSE videos i could get my hands on and time and time again he says he never stood firm on pre-trib, or post-trib because he doesn't know.

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  17. I get so sick and tired of these people who ask do you have a degree. I have a Bachelors in Theology and half my work done for a Masters in Theology and I have learned more about the Bible by reading it from cover to cover and studying verse by verse than I ever did in Seminary. It was by studying Matthew 24, Mark 13,Luke 17, Luke 21, 1 Cor.15, 1 Thess. & 2 Thess., and Revelation that I became a Post-Tribulationalist. I truly pray that God's dear children would just read and study the Bible for themselves rather than take the word of their Pastor or some of these super-duper prophecy experts like Tim Lahaye, Hal Lindsay, Jack Van Impe, and John Hagee. Just because something is printed as a note in a Scofield or Ryrie Study Bible doesn't make it true, better yet why not buy a plain jane no note King James Bible and read and study it? I have learned to appreciate Bro. Anderson because he is a student of the Bible, you can tell this man has studied and is not speaking out of ignorance. My advice to those who criticize Bro. Anderson's position on the rapture is to put your big boy pants on, use you noggin for something other than putting a hat on, grab King James Bible, a notepad, a pencil and ask the Lord for the Holy Spirit's guidance, and study all the passages concerning the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. If you are not willing to do that, all you are doing is displaying your own ignorance and parroting your favorite prophecy teacher's words. Bro. Chris Monkus.

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    1. Greetings -

      May I ask where you studied for your BA degree and where you are doing graduate work at? I ask because rarely does one find someone doing any serious graduate study in theology with a "King James only" type variant belief, as well as a belief in the errant teaching of the "rapture." The word, as you probably know, is from the Latin word "rapio," a translation from the Koine Greek word "harpazo," pronounced har-pahd-zo. Do you realize that the so called "rapture" teaching, in whatever variation, and usually in the sense of a "taking away" to heaven, is only been around since the 1840's? Although John Darby perpetuated it, he was not the originator of the errant idea. Scofield's Study Bible is responsible for much of the initial spreading of the idea. So, no "rapture" taught in the Church for almost 1800 years. Hmmm... I wonder what Paul was talking about in 1 Thes. 4:15-17? He is using a colorful metaphor to convey what he similarly says in 1 Cor. 15 and Pil. 3; he is describing the "parousia" - the second coming of Jesus. Not to snatch people away to "heaven," but, as the Greek phrase "eis apantesis" (to meet) implies, to then be escorted to earth, as in the "newly created" earth. The Greek word "apantesis" is widely known to Greek scholars and Theologians, and some Bible students, etc. It is also found in many works before the books of the NT were written, and it is always used to describe citizens from a city going out to meet a visiting dignitary, as a show of honor, and escorting the dignitary back to the city. You might call this a sort of "red carpet" treatment, in a sense.

      Shalom.

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    2. Greetings Anonymous,
      First of all I would like to ask you to identify yourself and tell me what your academic qualifications are? I do not have a BA degree, I have a Bachelor's in Theology which I received from the Missionary Baptist Seminary in Little Rock, AR. I have done half of my Master's course work there but will not be returning any time soon because of the necessity of Holding down a job and pastoring at Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Bradford, AR. I don't expect you to think much of my seminary training, I don't rest on it myself. I am too busy studying my Bible. By the way my name is Chris Monkus, what is your name? Where did you get your seminary degree? Where did you do your graduate work? I am a Born Again Bible Believing Baptist. What is your background. I noticed you closed the comment with Shalom, did you really mean it? Do you wish me peace, blessing and prosperity? Are you a Jew? I am just asking because you used the word Shalom. Are you in the Hebrew Roots movement? Are you Amillenialist,a preterist, a post-millennialist? Are you a Seventh Day Adventist? Please identify yourself. Also I would like to point out that there is much debate to when the Pre-Trib rapture theory was formulated. Some say it was John Nelson Darby in the 1830's, others trace it back to Edward Irving of the same time period, I believe MacPherson in his book "The Rapture Hoax" traces it back to a Scottish lass named Margaret MacDonald. There are still others who trace it back to the Jesuit priest Manual Lacunza or Morgan Edwards a Baptist pastor in the 1740's.
      Thank you for also pronouncing "harpazo." Is that the Erasmian pronounciation of that word? So far the only information I have gathered on you is that you know how to use Bibleworks, Hermeneutica, BAGD, Thayer's, or some other Greek dictionary and you have one Hebrew word in you vocabulary.
      Also I would like to know if you know what a metaphor is? I know, I took Hermeneutics in seminary, I have twenty books on Hermeneutics on my library shelf, most of which I have read. I also took three years of Hebrew and Greek at seminary, though I must be honest my Hebrew is very rusty and yes I believe the King James Version is the Word of God.
      I have to be going, will try to answer some of your other questions latter, please answer some of mine. I want you to know I am truly open to discussion on this issue, I would just like to know where your coming from Anonymous? I think you will find that I am an avid Bible Student, as well a student of history secular and religious, I read alot, and have a thirst for knowledge. Most people think I am generally a nice guy. Farewell.
      Chris Monkus, not hiding behind anonymity.
      (Hope I spelled that right, forgive for any misspellings or bad grammer).

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  18. The LORD is coming back one day, and nobody but God knows when. If you would just read the Bible, you'd see that. Come on, people! Way to go, Chris Monkus! You better believe the KJV is God's Word!

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  19. I applaud your courage and honesty in exposing the pretribulation rapture fraud. I have long been convinced that this doctrine is one of the most damaging and insidious false teachings espoused by many within the modern church. You will of course be belittled, attacked, ignored, and purposely misinterpreted for simply taking the decision to tell the truth. That's okay, because our job is merely to tell the truth, to put it out there, allowing folks to decide for themselves what they are going to do with it. An individual who diligently reads and accepts on faith what is preserved for us in the King James Bible is wiser than an individual with all sorts of titles and fancy degrees behind his or her name. I have quite a few degrees myself, including two graduate degrees and almost enough hours for a third, (thankfully, none of which are in theology), and yet for all that I have come back like the Prodigal Son to the wisdom of the Bible, where the character of Jesus Christ is fully revealed to men. Keep up the good work and always tell the truth as you are doing now, and God will take care of producing the fruit. I had essentially turned away from the faith, and it was through a man who was willing to tell the truth that God convicted me and convinced me of my sin.

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