Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Mitt doesn't have my vote

Some time ago, I blogged about why I don't vote. To my surprise, this topic really struck a  nerve with many people.


But, that was nothing compared to the reactions my husband (who does vote, when there are candidates that he can vote for with a clear conscience) got when he posted this simple status update on Facebook:

230 comments? Seriously? Because one person in Arizona is not voting? According to the most recent statistics, only slightly more than half of the population voted in the last presidential election, so it's not like my husband is the only one staying home from the polling booths.

Who do you vote for when both candidates are terrible choices, who hold to basically all the same core beliefs?

Who do you vote for when both candidates support the murder of the unborn?

Who do you vote for when the Republican golden-boy is the member of a cult?

Why is it that conservative pastors up and down the country, who just four short years ago all rallied behind McCain and told us NOT to vote for Romney, now openly come out telling us to vote for him? Most of Bob Gray's blog is disappointing, but that particular post takes the cake.

I still agree with what Chuck Baldwin had to say about "A Wasted Vote" in the last election.

Go ahead and vote for the "lesser of two evils" - but don't be surprised when the leader you get is (you guessed it): EVIL! 

"Mormonism - Islam for the white and delight-some"

The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. - 2 Samuel 23:3

Makes me wonder how much Bible reading Bob Gray and his like are doing when even I, just reading a few chapters a day to the kids, stumble across applicable verses like this one almost daily.


  1. This sermon was very instructive. But one part got me thinking. Pastor Anderson talked about the KJV, and then he talked about how the Quran and the book of mormons were limited to one language as opposed to Christianity which is open to everybody. Well, English is not my native language, and I don't think I'll ever be as fluent in English as in French.
    Problem is, I can't find the exact same translation as the KJV in French. I have gone through several versions (people at the bookshop must have think I was crazy, flipping through bible after bible), checking key verses that are often mistranslated (Luke 2:33 is the one that I only found ONE TIME well translated in maybe 6-7 versions that I checked). Do you know if there is a good French translation of the Bible? I have bought a KJV this summer, and I'm reading it, but I don't really understand it so well. I think I'm missing something.

    And that's a topic of itself : what if there are languages that don't have a proper translation ? What if people speaking only one language hear about Jesus but can't find a bible that they understand, and can't get saved? Do you know if soulwinning teams are going far away to learn those languages and talk to the people ?
    And do you know of a correct German translation of the Bible ?

    I'm sorry if the comment is too long, and a bit off topic on this article, but I have so many questions that I don't know where to ask.

    1. You might contact the Bible Baptist Church in DeLand Florida (www.jameswknox.org). I know they support a missionary in France who was working on a reliable French translation of the Bible. :)

    2. Several thoughts (and it's late, so if I'm not making sense, please forgive me):

      - You may not have a perfect Bible in French, but you speak English perfectly, and understand the KJV just fine. I believe there is a reason why English is the #1 language for communication between different languages. Here we are, both speaking in it to each other, when it neither your native language, nor mine.

      - Just because there is not an exact, 100% accurate copy of the Bible in any given language, does not mean they don't have the word of God. The verses that are correct and true to what God really said in the Bible, can stand by themselves. The problem with modern Bible versions in English is that there is not a single verse that has not been altered to a new, different meaning. Any verse in the NIV, for example, that is accurately translated and agrees with the KJV, is a true Bible verse. There just aren't many like that.

      - Most modern translations are based on different, Catholic manuscripts, accounting for many of the mistakes in them. Versions based on the right originals, such as the Luther Bible in German, will almost always have enough correct verses to be able to explain to someone the gospel.

    3. Hallo Sibylle, es gibt 2 dt. Bibeln, die du dir unbedingt anschaffen solltest: "Schlachter 2000" und "Luther 1545". Diese Bibeln sind genauso wie die King James Bibel nach dem Textus Receptus übersetzt worden, also dem Mehrheitstext. Als Ergänzung u. zur Vertiefung kannst du dir irgendwann später noch die neueste Luther-Bibel und die revidierte Elberfelder besorgen. In Deutschland gibt es keine Bibel die so verehrt wird wie in den USA die King James, wir sind da nüchterner und unterscheiden nur zwischen guten, mittelmäßigen und schlechten Übersetzungen.

      Ich bin kein King-James-Only Befürworter. Es ist nun mal so, dass wenn 2 Menschen ein und denselben Text übersetzen, nie 100 % das Gleiche rauskommt, das sollte Zsuzsa eigentlich wissen. Die King James 1611 ist außerdem nicht die älteste engl. Übersetzung, davor gab es noch die Geneva Bible.

      Ich glaube außerdem, dass jeder Mensch die Bibel in seiner Muttersprache besitzen u. lesen sollte. Ich spreche auch fließend englisch, aber ich will dennoch die Bibel auf deutsch lesen. Wie soll ich mich sonst mit anderen Deutschen darüber unterhalten? Ansonsten wäre das ja so wie bei den Katholiken, als sie nur auf Latein gepredigt haben u. das einfache Volk sie nicht verstanden hat. Luther hat damals dafür gesorgt, dass die Bibel auf deutsch übersetzt wird, damit sie jedem zugänglich wird. Englisch sollte in diesem Zusammenhang nicht zum neuen Latein mutieren ... Da wehre ich mich doch entschieden dagegen. Außerdem ist Deutsch eine schöne und exakte Sprache, für die man sich nicht schämen muss.

      Sibylle, gehe bitte zu www.cbuch.de, das ist meiner Ansicht nach der beste christliche Buchhandel in ganz Deutschland. Dort findest du die Bibeln, die ich genannt habe. Vielleicht kann man dir dort auch einen Tip geben, welche französische Übersetzung empfehlenswert ist.

    4. Sibylle, hier habe ich noch 2 deutsche Links für dich, die es dir ermöglichen, verschiedene Übersetzungen online miteinander zu vergleichen:


  2. My husband and I feel the same way and not voting. It's all the same just different packaging. The above sermon was fantastic! We learned so much and the similarities are uncanny! I don't understand all the chatter in my church to vote for this mormon candidate. Really?! God bless your family for being willing to preach and speak out against things that most people are afraid to touch with a ten foot pole. I seriously doubt the above message is being preached at any other church in all of America.

    1. I have heard quite a few preachers saying the same thing. They are not voting and talk about how horrible both of them are and how they are the same. Most IFB I know hate both candidates and are not voting.

  3. Yep! WE are not voting either. My husband says that he will write JESUS CHRIST in for his vote.

  4. I admit I've been sitting on the fence. We are not voting for a "spiritual leader" after all, but a man to run our country. But I cannot in good conscience before our holy God vote for a man who supports and protects a woman's "right" to kill her unborn baby. Thank you for posting this. May God have mercy on our country.

  5. Ha! My husband and I have marked that sermon to "watch later" on YouTube! We really don't know much about what Mormons actually believe...although I did hear-tell recently, that they believe Satan and Jesus are brothers?!?? INSANE!

    Our pastor had some [mormons] knock on his door a while ago...he used the opportunity to witness to them! ;)

    Loving the new sound quality on the videos too ! :)

  6. Not voting here either. I cannot for the life of me understand why the Pastor of our church, as well as many members, insist on this whole "it is a biblical command to vote" thing. Bologna! If you are a Christian, how in the world can you justify voting for the "lesser of two evils"? Really????? I am just so fed up. When will America wake up and see what is going on? Presidents are selected not elected, it is all part of the plan of the elite. Oh I need to stop now, I am feeling the blood pressure rise just thinking about it :/ To God be the Glory! It is so obvious to see the prophecies of the Bible unfolding before our eyes.

  7. I agree with you and your husbands position on voting. But I disagree with your support of Ron Paul. to me libertarianism is a joke. I'm a right-wing conservative. I agree with libertarians on some issues like getting rid of the welfare state. But they support the idea of interest. With that view they exspose themselves as phoneys when it comes to their oppisition of the banking elite. The banking elite get the power through the use of INTEREST. It doesn't matter what is used as currency (paper, gold, shoestrings etc.). All currency is, is what the people generally agree on it to be.

  8. As a former Mormon, I cannot thank you enough for seeing through Mitt Romney's pandering to evangelical Christians. I am also not voting this year because there just isn't a moral choice to be made between the two. It makes me sick to see all of my conservative friends propping up Mitt like he is somehow more virtuous than Obama (when his record proves he is exactly the same). At least my liberal friends know what they are getting with Obama, since he makes it very clear that he supports same-sex marriage and abortion. Mitt says all the right things, but he is just as damned as the rest of them. My conservative friends are being duped by a Mormon who claims to be just another Christian like them. It's sad.

  9. Thank you for the information. I am voting because I know that if I do not vote, by default I am voting for the opposite party. So, although you bring up some good points, I refuse to vote for Barack Obama by default. While I don't agree with Romney on everything (not NEARLY everything), and I worry about his faith, I definitely disagree with Obama more. At least with Romney there is a chance of protecting marriage. With Obama, there is no such hope.

    1. Amy Joy,

      If there were no God, I would agree with you. But since He exists, and since there is a difference between right and wrong, I very much disagree with you. You are buying into the lies of the devil if you think that "let us do evil that good may come" works.

      We are in the sad situation we are in today (no righteous candidates) because one election after another, people are not voting their conscience, but what they think is "smartest" overall. The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. He can put whomever He wants into office tomorrow. He does not do so because His people are wise in their own eyes, willingly voting for a wicked man just because he seemingly isn't as wicked as the alternative (I don't even agree with that). Why would God intercede for us if we are willingly voting in wicked men, and justifying doing so?

      This country is doomed. Hopefully, the remnant of those that are still seeking God with their whole heart will be spared, just as some of the Israelites were when God allowed the Babylonians to take over their country. The ends does not justify the means. The way to God's blessing is through the door of obedience. We are not commanded anywhere in Scripture to vote, but we are commanded not to walk in the counsel of the ungodly.

    2. I am so sick of the "lets vote for the lesser of two evils"! You will have to answer to God for who you vote for, how can you answer for voting Romney or Obama? Both wicked horrible people. Romney has done a lot for the homosexual agenda, and all sorts of other evil stuff. He is a puppet for the new world order. The candidates are not much different at all. It's an illusion that we have a choice lol! No way could I vote for him. Women shouldn't vote either, but that is another topic that I think Zsuzsanna covered very well in one of her post.

  10. I will tell you what I tell my older son, who also won't vote. In his case he never votes, it doesn't have to do with who the candidates are. If you don't vote then don't complain about whoever the next President is.

    Voting is a responsibility that I feel all citizens are called upon to do. I'm fortunate that for the last 23 years I was in MN, which consistently has the highest voter turnout in the country. I'm in WI now, not sure about their turnout.

    This election will be the first national election my daughter-in-law can vote in. She was naturalized 2 years ago. She definitely believes in voting.

    1. "If you don't vote then don't complain about whoever the next President is."

      So my husband and I put in many hours campaigning for a candidate not on the ballot, following political news, talking with those around us about politics and make a very deep and personal decision not to vote for a lesser evil man...and we don't get a right to complain. But some automaton American zoned out on CNN or FOX can stumble down to the voting booth, take two seconds to vote and they get to speak their mind?

      Please. My husband and I put far more time, energy and thought into deciding NOT to vote than the average American (or Christian) who just looks at the R or D and votes for the name in front of it. We haven't "wasted" our vote. It is a deliberate, conscious CHOICE against BOTH candidates. Rather than a passive sheeple vote for a party line. And I will definitely continue to speak my mind.

  11. I have wrangled over this for some time. Our main responsibility as Christians is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Logically, I conclude that Mormon priest Romney will not immediately persecute Christians with the fervor that the Obama-nation has in all his years in office (both presidential and senate.)

    Romans 12:18 (KJV)

    If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

    That being said - ALL presidents (since FDR) have either been CFR, or Masons, or Skull and Bones, Tri-Lateral Commission, Bilderberg - sometimes they belonged to more than one club. The only exceptions have been Kennedy (assassinated, and Reagan, attempted assassination.)

    Anyone - including the very charming and intelligent Historian, David Barton, who believes that this is a "Christian" nation, has been deceived. It was, perhaps, in the very beginning so, but has not been for over a century. The beginning of the end was the publication, and acceptance of the "new" Greek Testament in 1881, and subsequent formation of the major cults, the Hegelian Dialectic entering the universities, Dewey's "progressive education," and last but not least - the creation of the Federal Reserve.

    We are living in the last church age, and are eye witnesses to the formation of the 10 super-nations of the one-world government. Just now, on a moment by moment basis, super-nation 7, Northern Africa and the Middle East are being solidified with the bogus and satanic "Arab Spring."

    It probably doesn't matter too much at this point who we vote for. The Elites have already decided. Here is their map -


    1. Great points, thank you so much for your comment!

  12. I totally disagree with not voting. I am a born again, KJV Bible believing Christian who understand that Christians should be out in November voting. Whether you actually go and cast your vote in person, or you remain silent, you are still voting. Men and women in our great military (like my husband) have fought from the beginning of our country to give each citizen the freedoms you now enjoy. No, Romney is not perfect (very far from it); however, he does believe in true marriage (man and woman), religious freedom (that each of you enjoy), the freedom of each state to rule/regulate themselves, hard work and many more positive things. Obama.....well, we all know that he is about as far from Christian beliefs as possible. So, if you do not vote in November, get ready for the socialistic, God hating muslim that is Obama and thank yourself for putting him in office. I honestly don't believe that God rewards those that act so irresponsibly and self serving. Go and vote...it is your right and responsiblity as a Christian and an American of this great country!! Posted by: Carrie Rowley from Temecula, CA

    1. Believes in true marriage? Is that a joke? He is part of a polygamist cult that believes marriage lasts for eternity, producing spirit babies. Give the Mormon church 10 more years max, and they will be all in support of gay marriage.

      Why do Mormons scare you less than Muslims? Both are false religions, and they actually have many things in common. Mormonism is closer to Islam than it is to the Bible.

    2. "Men and women in our great military (like my husband) have fought from the beginning of our country to give each citizen the freedoms you now enjoy."

      You mean the freedoms we once enjoyed. Not to mention anybody in the military now is not fighting FOR our FREEDOM since the more un-Constitutional wars we get into as a nation the more our FREEDOMS are restricted and taken away from us. Been to an airport lately?

      Both Mitt and Obama (as well as the RNC and DNC) are pro-war and pro-military industrial complex. How has any war that we're in now and for the past 20+ years, (Gulf War, OIF, OEF, Afghanistan, etc.), fought for our freedom?

      Not to mention it could be argued that even WWI and WWII were NOT fought for our freedom either. But at least there was a formal congressional declaration for those two wars.

      How much of our freedom was fought for during Vietnam and Korea? None of these wars were fought for an ounce of our freedom. And don't talk about how we fought for all the citizens of the aforementioned countries freedom either because they are some of the most oppressed people in the world ruled by dictators.

      Further, don't talk to me about not supporting our troops and not being patriotic. I was a "Troop" for 14+ years and during that time I served as both enlisted and officer. My parting gift to each individual in my unit before I left active duty was a pocket Constitution. I'd say I'm more than Patriotic.

      And for the record, I don't think that most people in the military are bad people. I just think they are misinformed. They want to do the right thing and are honorable people, as is your husband I'm sure. Many that I served with are awake and want to see an end to all the un-Constitutional wars.

      But just because somebody is in the military and "fights" for my freedom (or perceived freedom) doesn't mean that I have to exercise that freedom. Especially if all I'm doing is voting for the less of two evils. True freedom means I am free to vote for who I want to be President or not to vote at all. I am free to own private property if I so choose (and can afford it). And nowhere in the Bible does it ever command me to vote. And if your pastor is preaching that then he's WRONG!

      BTW...IF I vote, I will use the FREEDOM I still have and write in Ron Paul or just not vote at all. I have the freedom to do that and I will exercise that freedom.

      Thank you Zsuzsanna for your blog.



    3. Actually, it isn't a joke. California has been fighting the gay marriage thing for a couple of years and the "saved Christians" did nothing (they refused to get involved). The Mormons and the Catholics spent millions of dollars and send millions of people to vote and California is still no gay marriage. How sad that the unbelieving had to fight the cause and the true saved believers sat back and didn't want to get involved. I am not praising the Mormons or the Cathlics, I am criticizing those who did nothing. But God prevailed and used the "wicked" to keep Biblical marriage here. By voting we are being good stewards of the freedoms that God has given us. Yes, you have the freedom not to vote. I have a long line of Christian patriots that fought and died so you could have that freedom and squander it. Dan, I do appreciate your service....maybe you are bitter because you don't hear that enough. Criticize the government, but not the brave men and women who sign up and many gave their lives for the freedoms we do have. And we do have many freedoms. Don't believe it....travel to almost everywhere else in this world (as I have done) and see what no freedom gets you. Just ask our missionaries how much freedom is in country they serve in. I have a sister and a uncle who are both on the foreign field and their countries have not freedoms. Write in Ron Paul (by the way...he isn't much better so don't act like he will deliver us from all our problems). Voting as a right and obligation was taught in the KJV Bible College I attended and from the pulpits of the great preachers (many of which are know across this country). "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmond Burke. So are you a good man or woman who will do nothing or a God fearing Christian who will do their best to help get our country back on track with the Lord?

  13. I really can't understand your vision for America. Even in Biblical times, there were taxes to be paid and wars to be fought and welfare for the poor. If you don't want to vote, that's your choice. But why on earth is being a YES on NAFTA a reason not to vote for somebody (as per your chart above)? From what I read on your posts, you like to use the library a lot - do you realize that's funded by the government? What exactly is a government supposed to do in your view? Should it just be every person for him or herself?

    I also agree that both candidates and parties are very flawed. Unlike you, however, I think Ron Paul is no picnic either!

  14. I must say I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of friends and family, mostly my Christian friends and family, telling me that I must be a registered Republican and support Romney in this election to be in God's will. What??? God is a Republican??? And God wants me to vote for a Mormon??? I don't think so! Some say they are voting for the "lesser of two evils." Well, to me, that is still voting for evil, and I don't believe that is God's will, at least not for me anyway. I will not be voting this year either. I may go to the polls to vote on some local issues, but neither of these Presidential candidates will get my vote. I keep thinking, over 300 million people in this country, and this is the best we can come up with? People need to put their trust in the Lord and stop depending on some politician to legislate morality.

    I also don't believe it is my Christian duty or my duty as an American to vote. I can't find any place in the Bible where it instructs me to vote, and the Constitution certainly doesn't tell us it is our duty to vote. It is our right to vote (or not to vote, if we so choose).

  15. So because your pervert (according to you and your husband Ron Paul is a pervert because he was an ob/gyn) didn't get chosen your husband will by default of not voting cast his vote for Obama? I think at least Romney will protect somewhat religious which Obama is not doing unless you're a Muslim. Romney will protect the 2nd amendment which Obama wants to abolish and will do so pretty much right away if he gets re-elected. He doesn't want citizens having guns especially ones who have read the Declaration of Independence.

  16. Can someone explain to me the logic of saying that by staying home, I am by default voting for Obama?

    Couldn't I with the same logic claim that by staying home, I am by default voting for Romney?

    Is it just all about which candidate I (dis)like more in my mind, that determines which way my phantom absentee vote swings????

    And could any of the pro-Romnites please share a Bible verse about (1) my duty to vote and/or (2) my duty to vote for the lesser of two evils?

  17. The things people believe make my head hurt. "Well at least Romneys religion is full of white people", is all I hear. Give me a break. He's a clown. They both are.

  18. I'm voting for Gary Johnson. The other two major political parties serve the downfall of America. Johnson won't win, but I agree with his position on personal responsibility and liberty. IT's time to send the message to the Republicans that their corruption is as unacceptable as the Democrats socialist corruption and race to national bankruptcy.

  19. Rick Santorum was the only decent one in the bunch and now that he's gone I won't cast my lot in with Romney. America's judgement has already begun and we are getting the man we deserve no matter if he's the Marxist Muslim or the Marxist Mormon.

  20. Ron Paul - an "honest rape" - enough said.

  21. How do you explain the Council of Nicaea? Wasn't that meant to decide which books would go in the Bible, which would be eliminated, and also to establish official Christian doctrine? Knowing that, how can you say that the Bible is the word of God, when in reality, it was put together by men? It may have begun as the word of God, but it was altered by men. The Quran on the other hand, has never been altered by men.
    -A Muslim

  22. I'm back again with a few comments on the sermon.
    1) 17:00 minutes- Islam does not teach that Arabs are superior, in his final speech Mohammad (pbuh) said that no Arab is superior over a non-Arab, nor is a non-Arab superior to an Arab.
    2) 17:10 It is not a requirement that converts change there name. I did not change my name when I converted, and no one tried to make me. Some converts do it because they feel reborn and they want a new name to symbolize that rebirth, but it is not required. Also, you do not have to adopt Arab culture. Some converts do it because they start to have mostly Arab friends, but you do NOT have to adopt Arab culture. And not all Muslims are Arab. There are Muslims from every corner of the world, speaking every language imaginable. For example my husband is Turkish. Turks are not Arab, do not practice Arab culture, and they do not speak Arabic.
    3) 47:46 The God we believe in and worship IS the God of the Bible. We worship the God of Adam, and the God of Abraham, and the God of Moses, and of Solomon, and of Jesus.

  23. I am glad so many of you are not voting! Thanks for helping President Obama out! I just don't want to hear A WORD out of any of you in the next 4 years. You don't vote, you don't get an opinion.

  24. To Anonymous: How does my not voting help President Obama? As a registered Democrat who believes in universal health care, is pro-union, and expects to be a recipient of social security benefits in the near future, I would actually be more inclined to vote for Obama than for Romney.

    "You don't vote, you don't get an opinion." Who made that rule? This is still a free country where everyone has a right to freely state their own opinion whether or not we vote.

    If Republicans want to blame someone for Obama's reelection, don't blame the non-voters. They need to blame themselves for not putting a better candidate than Mitt Romney on the ticket.

    1. "If Republicans want to blame someone for Obama's reelection, don't blame the non-voters. They need to blame themselves for not putting a better candidate than Mitt Romney on the ticket."
      This is the best statement I've heard so far. I wholeheartedly agree. I am planning to vote, but I will probably be writing in someone's name since I can't in good conscience vote for either of the two candidates.

  25. By the way, greade1teacher, I knew you where a socialist when I saw you were from West Virginia. It seems like everyone in your state is either a government worker or union worker. No wonder it's a toilet hole. But I guess you've just been voting in your self-interst (as a government worker) your whole life....shame that it conflicts with the interest of God's people.

    Zsuzsa, people like grade1teacher should be confirmation as to why any believer shouldn't send their children to government schools. You heard it straight from her mouth. She's pro-universal healthcare, pro-union, and pro-social security.

    Most government workers believe in an all powerful state to provide all the "basic needs" of the population and any person who doeasn't rely on the Government to provide for them will be called out by folks like grade1teacher. Heavens forbid we should rely on God to take care of us when our benevolent government is demanding our complete loyality.

  26. You all are stupid if you think our "vote" makes a difference. The New World Order decides who gets in, they brain wash people into thinking they "voted" for the president, what a joke. They have dumbed down America, that is the only way Obama or Romney could get in.

    1. "stupid" ??? how about the term "foolish"....a more appropriate term (and Christ-like) if you are not in grade school, which I am assuming you are not.

    2. Aren't "stupid" and "foolish" describing the same thing???

    3. When someone is not acting kindly, it is more Christ-like to call them "rude" instead of a "jerk". Yes, either word can be chosen to descibe that behavior but it doesn't mean it is appropriate. Do you want your children to walk around saying the words "stupid" and "jerk" or rather "foolish" and "rude"? (or other adults?)I believe the later sounds more appropriate and can help in keeping ears open to a healthy/respectful conversation.

    4. Remember the rule of "kindly worded, constructive" replies? Calling someone stupid would not meet that standard. "Somehow" this one got through!

  27. Zsuzsa, I randomly found your blog today, and I respect the decision that you and your husband have made not to vote. You appear to be good people who have dedicated your lives to God, and I'm sure that you'll be richly blessed for your devotion and for raising a large family in Him.

    I am, however, disappointed in your slander and evil speaking towards Mormons. Being a Mormon myself, I especially dislike being told that I am not a Christian. Following Jesus Christ has been the cornerstone of my entire life. I have covenanted to always remember Him, keep His commandments, and take His name upon me. I thank my Heavenly Father everyday for the precious gift of His Son, and close each prayer in His name. I pray daily to be able to find and help and serve those around me like the Savior taught. I think that if you got to know a few Mormons, you would find that I am not an anomaly, but rather, this is what our church teaches.

    Please reconsider the unchristian way you speak about us. It is possible to disagree without resorting to slander or fearmongering. Thank yo

    1. Unchristian? How could someone that believes that their blood is literally transformed into "Jewish blood" at baptism possibly be considered Biblical Christians?

      How about this racist tripe? -
      "I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today.... The day of the Lamanites is nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised. In this picture of the twenty Lamanite missionaries, fifteen of the twenty were as light as Anglos, five were darker but equally delightsome The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation. At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl--sixteen--sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents--on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather....These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness."
      - Apostle and Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, Spring 1960

      Not only does the Book of Mormon contradict itself, it is clear that Joseph Smith took writings directly from the KJV. How do I know this? Because the Book of Mormon includes the words in italics, that were not present in the Masoretic Hebrew. These italicized words were added by the KJV translators for depth in understanding, as the English language does not always have a word to correctly express the Hebrew language and ideas fully. This would have occurred long, long after the date of the "golden tablets."


      The recent change in LDS policy, to ordain black people into the Melchizedek priesthood, is grossly contradictory. God does not change. Period.

      Hebrews 13:8 (KJV)

      "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

      Malachi 3:6 (KJV)

      "For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."

      Psalm 119:89

      King James Version (KJV)

      89 "For ever, O Lord, Thy Word is settled in heaven."

      Matthew 24:35

      King James Version (KJV)

      35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away."

      I beseech you, Cheltz, in the love of Christ, to investigate these things for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Ask the Lord to reveal the truth to you, and if you are sincere, He will.

    2. Always enjoy sage's kind replies....always rightly dividing the Word!
      Refreshing to read what the Bible says and not opinions, opinions, opinions!!!

    3. Thank you for your kind words, (Anonymous?) Over 25 years homeschooling, and half that many as a ladies Bible teacher, has "tempered" my personality - [rather like a steel meat tenderizer, spiked side, on a tough steak!]LOL :D

      The burden to spread the Word intensifies as the "Day" is approaching - does it not? Thank you, Jesus.

      Psalm 119:103-104

      King James Version (KJV)

      103 How sweet are Thy Words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!

      104 Through Thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

  28. I believe Mitt Romney is pro-life except in the case of rape, incest and the life of the mother. The afore mentioned situations (I've read) account for 2% or less of the number of abortions that occur in this country. If this statistic is true, a much greater number of precious little babies would be saved from being murdered than would be under an Obama Administration. I am not afraid of a Mormon or a Muslim being in office-because as all Christians know, even the king's heart is in the Lord's hands. We are not electing a pastor. We are electing the leader of our country. Even Daniel felt compelled to serve in the wicked and evil King Nebuchadnazzar's administration.


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