Wednesday, April 4, 2012

There are people worth hating

Edited to add: Please be advised that the news story and blog post below contain perturbing information and one photo about late-term infanticide in China. Reader discreation is advised.

As reported yesterday on Life Site News:

LINYI CITY, Shandong Province, China, April 3, 2012 ( - A chilling photograph circulating in China shows the body of a 9-months-gestation baby submerged in a bucket of water, apparently a victim of the country’s one-child policy.

Digital Journal reports that the photograph, in which the head and arm of a child can be seen underwater in a large red bucket on the floor, was posted to the Chinese web services company Baidu before it was circulated on Weibo, the country’s version of Twitter, last week.

The abortion appears to have taken place on March 26 after Chinese family planning police in the town of Moshan hunted down the family because the couple already had one child.

According to English reports regarding the original post, the pregnant mother was forcibly held down as she was given an injection to induce labor, after which the baby “even gave a cry when it came out,” but was left in a bucket to drown.

As horrific and inhumane as this case is, it is hardly an isolated incident. It happens tens of thousands of times, each year, all over China. 

Testimony for Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission Hearing
November 10, 2009
Wujian, citizen of the People’s Republic of China


My name is Wujian. I was born in a small village in northern China. During my daily life, I tried to smile at everyone while at the bottom of my heart there is engraved a record of an unforgettable experience from hell.
It was the winter of 2004 when I found out that I was pregnant. It was beautiful to sense this life growing inside of me: what a miracle! Meanwhile, I was also very fearful since I did not have the Permit for Pregnancy or the Birth Permit, which means, according to Chinese law, this baby was not allowed to be born into this world. This baby would have to die in my womb. During that time in my hometown, this was the law decided by the Chinese Family Planning policy which brought fear on every family. Not only were my parents and family at risk, but also my other relatives.
Time flew as the little baby grew daily in my womb. While the baby moved more and more actively in my body, the maternal love also increased. The word “MOM” was not just a word anymore; it became a reality in my life. My baby and I were one, sharing the same blood.
Pretty soon, my lower stomach began to bulge. In order to protect my baby, I had to hide myself in a very old, shabby house in a remote area. There was no electricity at all in the room, and it was very dark even during the day. Fear and loneliness filled me every day, but as long as I could have my baby, I could stand anything. Many times, I was wakened at night by nightmares, as I dreamed that I was hunted and arrested by the Family Planning government officials and forced to have an abortion.
Eventually, the Family Planning government officials found out about my pregnancy. So they searched all over trying to arrest me, and while they could not find me, then they caught my father instead. They put my father into the detention center and beat him every day. On the fourth day after they caught my father, one neighbor came and told me that my father was dying: they would continue beating my father – even to death – until I went to the local hospital to get abortion. My heart was broken into pieces as I faced this terrifying dilemma: either my father or my baby, one of them had to die, and I had to make the decision.
Very soon after this, the worst thing happened: when several Family Planning government officials broke into the house where I was hiding, and without any words, they drug me into their van.
As soon as I got into the van, I found that another Mom was already inside the van. She told me she was carrying her first baby, and that she was 28 years old. She did not have the Permit of Pregnancy or the Birth Permit, and she was 7 months pregnant. She was so eager to keep this baby that she was fighting with the government officers in the van. Suddenly, one government official at his 20's slapped her on the face and immediately her mouth began to bleed. Being thus insulted, she screamed like a lion and fought with the Family Planning government officials.
About one hour later, the van stopped in the hospital. As soon as I was drug out of the van, I saw hundred of pregnant Moms there – all of them, just like pigs in the slaughterhouse. Immediately I was drug into a special room, and without any preliminary medical examination, one nurse did Oxytocin injection intravenously. Then I was put into a room with several other Moms. 
The room was full of Moms who had just gone through a forced abortion. Some Moms were crying, some Moms were mourning, some Moms were screaming, and one Mom was rolling on the floor with unbearable pain. 
I was not very sensitive to the oxytocin injection, and then I was pulled into another small room. One nurse pulled out one, big, 8-inch long needle for intramuscular injection. I had never seen such big, long needle in my life. As soon as they pulled away my clothes, the nurse put her hand around my lower stomach; the fear and her cold hand caused my abdominal muscle to spasm. Because of that, for a while, the nurse could not do the injection.  
At that moment, I was the only Mom in the room. I began begging the nurse while I cried, , “I have already had the oxytocin injection, please let me go; I will go as far away as possible and I will not tell anyone else what you had done for me and I will be grateful for you for the rest of my life.” The nurse did not respond to my begging—she looked like wood.
 Then I kept saying to her, “You are an angel, as a nurse or a doctor who is helping people and saving peoples’ life; how could you become a killer by killing people every day?”   I could hardly see her face because she wearied a big mask. Soon she became very angry at what I said, and told me that I talked too much. She also told me that there was nothing serious about this whole thing for her. She did these all year. She also told me that there were over 10,000 forced abortions in our county just for that year, and I was having just one of them. I was astonished by her words and I realized that my baby and I were just like a lamb on the cutting board. Finally, she put the big, long needle into the head of my baby in my womb. At the moment, it was the end of the world for me and I felt even time had stopped. I hardly knew that something worse would happen later.
After the injection, my baby became very quiet for a whole day. I was so naive that I thought I could leave the hospital because I had finished the forced injection. I wondered if perhaps my baby was lucky enough that s/he could survive.  
To my great surprise, the next evening I was drug into a surgical room. I was asked to lie down on a surgical table; it was the Guillotine for me and for my baby. While I was lying down on the surgical table I found that there was bloody fingerprint on the wall, left by other Moms during their surgery of a forced abortion.
One doctor told me that I brought too much trouble to them already because my baby was supposed to flow out by itself after the injection. Since it did not come out as expected, they decided to cut my baby into pieces in my womb with scissors, and then suck it out with a special machine. 
What I had done in my life that made me deserve this kind of punishment? What evil thing was this all about? Even a wild animal like a tiger will give her life to save their own baby tiger. As a Mom and a human being, could I not even protect the life of my baby? 
I did not have any time to think as this most horrifying surgery began by force. I could hear the sound of the scissors cutting the body of my baby in my womb. I could feel that, little by little, my baby was cut into pieces; s/he was separated from my body. S/he was the flesh of my flesh, the bone of my bone, a part of my body. That kind of pain not only killed my body, but also killed my emotions and my feelings.  
“How could I be a Mom? What’s wrong with me?” I cried while talking to my baby and I preferred to die together with my baby at that moment. Nothing sounded meaningful at all for me in this world: In fact, part of me had already died – part of me was already gone and gone forever! 
Eventually the journey in hell, the surgery was finished, and one nurse showed me part of a bloody foot with her tweezers. Through my tears, the picture of the bloody foot was engraved into my eyes and into my heart, and so clearly I could see the five small bloody toes. Immediately the baby was thrown into a trash can…   
Finally, I was allowed to go home from the hospital. I did not eat anything, or even drink any water, for several days. I barely talked with anyone. From time to time at home, I could hear the mourning of my father. He was released after I was caught, but he had been beaten terribly; it took him over a month to recover physically. Looking at my father, thinking of my dead baby, I cried day and night, and frequently the picture of the little bloody foot came up in my mind. Physically I recovered after about one month, but psychologically and spiritually – never!
At that time, I got a migraine headache, and it is with me up to today.
Some people have said that time is the best medicine and time can heal everything. But this is not the case for me: as time goes on, the suffering is getting worse and worse and memory is getting clearer and clearer.  
Thank God I became a Christian; God did help me and healed me. The Bible teaches us that as long as we confess our sin, we will be forgiven. Frequently I come to the Lord, asking for forgiveness. I know God has already forgiven my sin, but very often I could not forgive myself. I do believe that I will meet my baby again in heaven. If God allows, I will ask the forgiveness from my baby when I see him/her in heaven. 
As a Chinese saying says, whenever you have broken your tooth, you swallow it by yourself. I never shared this experience with anyone before, because the scars in my heart are one million times more painful than the scars on my body! 
While I was writing this short testimony, several times I cried out and I could not continue writing. I knew that there are millions of Chinese sisters are suffering and will suffer the same thing that I suffered.  
Who could help them? Who could save them? The one-child policy and forced abortion policy have killed millions of innocent lives in China. How could this inhuman crime be stopped? When could this inhuman crime be stopped?  
May God forgive me, that on that day I will meet my baby in heaven!

The same website gives the harrowing accounts of two other mothers, Wang Liping and Liu Dan. Again, these are daily occurrences in China. Remember, this is the same country that is trying to make the offensive slogans for their forcible family planning more palpable:

If you don't receive the tubal ligation surgery by the deadline, your house will be demolished!"

"We would rather scrape your womb than allow you to have a second child!"

"Kill all your family members if you don't follow the rule!"


"Once you get captured, an immediate tubal ligation will be done; Should you escape, we'll hunt you down; If you attempt a suicide, we'll offer you either the rope or a bottle of poison."

Not only as Christians, but just human beings in general, we should be outraged and disgusted by such mass slaughter of human beings, the violation of the rights of parents, and the evil government behind all this. Would any normal person think this is acceptable? Would they say "these doctors and nurses are normal, and I love them"? What if I said, "Hitler was normal, and I love him?" Only a complete monster would have such notions, one who him/herself has been turned into an animal lacking any natural affections. 

The Bible calls such people "reprobates", which basically means there is no more hope for them. Because they hated and rejected God, He in turn rejected them. They will go to the hell when they die, and there is zero hope for them in this life. Romans chapter 1 is one place in the Bible that explains this.

Invariably, I get accused of being hateful. I will be the first to admit that I do, in fact, hate some people - reprobates as explained above. Yes, God is a god of love, but he DOES come to hate some. Otherwise, why would He torture anyone, in hell, forever - out of love??? You would have to be entirely insane to believe that.

Several months ago, a guy showed up at our church. We have visitors weekly, and they come from all walks of life. Consequently, occasionally we get evil people in the mix, too. This particular guy, who was claiming to be a Bible-believing Christian, had a general air of cockiness about him, spouted off about his theological expertise, threw out the names of typical big-name preachers that he claimed to have known so intimately, all while looking like your garden-variety, burned-out, long-haired and slovenly dressed old hippie.

In addition to trying to discuss all sorts of unbiblical and false doctrine with my husband and defending Obama, he finally attacked my husband for our large family size, saying "Why do you even have all these kids? You shouldn't be allowed to have so many kids", and then saying how the US should adopt and enforce a one-child policy like China. Never mind that we take full responsibility for our own children, financially and otherwise, and reject all government assistance, while this liberal Democrat is all about free handouts and big government.

Thankfully at this point, my husband in no uncertain terms made it clear to this pervert that he was no longer welcome, and had to leave immediately. No, such people cannot any more be reached. They are evil, and their only goal in life is to hurt and destroy as many lives as they can. No normal human being can look at six happy, healthy, well-dressed children and think: "five of these should be murdered". They do not look at a pregnant mother and think she is a problem in need of fixing, by means of murder of her unborn. 

My only comfort is that there is a special place in hell for these reprobates. God WILL settle the score on behalf of the innocent victims.


  1. Even so, come QUICKLY, Lord Jesus!

  2. This was sooo awful to read. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. As a mom who is 36 weeks pregnant, I cannot imagine going through what that woman did. So horrific and we have mothers here in the US CHOOSING to do this to their babies!!! *barf*.

    Anyway, I hope our country never comes to what China has but in the day we are living, it would not surprise me one bit.

  3. There are no words.

    God bless our Chinese brethren.

  4. They are worth hating but we are still to love them and pray for their souls. You take verses on hate so out of context. No where at all in the bible is it allowed for Christians to hate anyone. We are allowed righteous anger and we should have disgust and anger over this horrendous act against his innocent child but God is not willing that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance. I am sad for the hands that have shed innocent blood because they will face the judgement of God one day but in the mean time we should not hate them we should pray for their souls. Even the most vile and lowly sinner can be saved if he calls out to God. Remember, all sin is equal in God's eyes.

  5. is an excellent website for spreading much needed truths.
    In all honesty I could not bring myself to read Wujian's testimony....... That picture made me feel absolutely sick with greif. I feel so horrible for the mothers of China and will make sure to start praying for them. I don't really have anything to add except that I think as many people as possible should PRAY for the Chinese.

  6. You might like to put a trigger warning at the begining of this post. As a very hormonal pregnant woman in the first trimester, the photo was just too much for me, and the highly descriptive story was extremely upsetting. Of course I know that's the point, but there are some more sensitive to this as others, for example the picture would be extremely upsetting and triggering for anyone who has lost a child in infancy. We don't expect to see pictures of dead bodies without warning. In my hormonal state, I've no doubt I'll be seeing this image all day and having nightmares of the story tonight (in fact, my nightmare last night wasn't too dissimilar, the doctors were trying to restrain me and give me an epidural, except the 'needle' was a power drill... :S I seemed to be convinced that with an epi I wouldn't feel the baby come out and they were going to kill it. I have weird pregnancy dreams, but this is still better than the recurring machine gun man I saw constntly during my first pregnancy!)

    I do know the realities in china, and I think it's important that people know this is not a humane practice or procedure by any means, that it is outright cruel. But maybe some people don't need to think about it just this moment, and a warning would help them.

  7. anon,

    leave it to a "christian" to defend such wicked people. All sin is not equal, and I challenge you to show me a verse that says otherwise. All sin is a transgression of the law, and any sin is enough to condemn us to hell, but that does not mean they are equal. Stealing is a sin, as is murder - but the bible has different punishments on them, because they are NOT equal. I guess you think telling a lie is no worse than being a mass murderer or child molester? SCARY!!!


    you are right, and I apologize. I have edited the original post to include a warning, and to have the page break before the photo. Hope your pregnancy is going well. I know what you mean about those crazy pregnancy dreams! Today, as I am doing all I can to ensure the safety and well-being of our unborn child, I shudder at the situation these Chinese moms face - nobody to turn to if they have a health concern during pregnancy, nobody to support them, only fear, hiding, and almost always - death. So terribly sad. I am glad these precious little ones are safe in the arms of God when all is said and done.

    I agree, we need to pray for the Chinese, and do all we can to stop this. For one, whenever I can, I refuse to buy china-made anything. I realize that cutting out all the stuff they produce by running these slave mills is impossible, but when I have a choice, I refuse their merchandise.

  8. I am BY NO MEANS defending these people. I myself am adopted from China and am pro-life. This "helpful" one-child policy makes me absolutely SICK.

    HOWEVER, God does not hate anyone. He still loves the people in hell. The people in hell sentenced themselves by not living the right way. He is all loving, all knowing, all powerful...and all just. THat means that he punishes people according to what they have done, but He NEVER hates anyone. There are parts of us that He hates, (haughty eyes, etc. from the verse) but He does not hate US.

    And yes, I'm 15. And yes, I'm Catholic, who, as I understand, are people you hate. But I felt that I have just as much of a right, as does anyone here, to say what I thought.

  9. You have made it to FJ again. Those are the dumbest, most ignorant people in the whole wide world, probably even doubt China exists. They are discussing whether or not the article, the video, your short story submitted "are true or not". Unbelievable.
    At least you don't live in a hermetically sealed bubble and deny the rest of the world along with it's problems exists.
    You are providing information that makes people think - too much challenge for some : ) - and think outside their little star spangled boxes. Another challenge of course.
    Your post was an eye opnener, and yes, it does push people out of their little comfort zones, so they want these posts to just go away because it's not too pleasant for them to "think" about which is heavy work. You have disturbed dumber people's sense of comfort and they kick and scream because they are okay with it happening, they just don't want anyone to push it in their faces, even if they are the ones lurking around here all the blessed time.
    What you have brought up is a huge moral and ethical issue, stirring up a lot of emotions in most people in this world.
    But we must be aware of it, know about it instead of asking others to tell us it's all a lie and burying our heads in the sand.
    Thank you for your article Zsuzsanna.

  10. This world isn't all roses and butterflies. It's up to us to turn our world into it - Zsuzsanna has already managed to provide a safe, caring, loving, healthy, beautiful home for a bunch of children who have lives most children cannot even DREAM about.
    I don't mind her not being shy sharing the darker side of human nature.
    Zsuzsanna! Your children are really, really lucky. Luckwise, they are on the top of the pyramid. You are also a tough woman is not afraid of presenting what she does not like about this world. You did what your conscience told you to do.
    Of course it must be much more comfortable not to know about it, changing the subject to pop culture or anything else but then the killings will never stop.
    Always do what your conscience tells you to do, Zsuzsanna. No matter how many people doubt you, want to call your true statements false or get a queezy stomach.
    Those baby girls - ever seen a Chinese baby with it's beautifully shaped almond eyes? picture perfect and beautiful - in the buckets would trade places with anyone of you, no matter what your "problems" are. Someone has a queezy stomach - wowsa! I'll shed a tear as soon as I get over the murdered babies.

  11. Trini,

    I certainly do not hate you, nor anyone else just because they are a catholic, or any other false religion. You will not find anywhere on my blog where I say otherwise. I do not hate any other Christians. I only hate "reprobates", which is less than 1% of the human population.

    Does God hate? What do these verses say?

    Hos 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

    (God says he HATED them, and will love them NO MORE)

    Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

    Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

    Deu 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

    Just to name a few verses. Few Christians agree with this, but the Bible has never been a popular book.

  12. This simply broke my heart to read. But I'm glad I did; to further understand the wickedness that is happening all over the world.

    "Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies" ~ Psalm 139:21-22

    Thank you for taking the time to highlight this upsetting issue.

  13. I'm sure that you would agree that the Hebrew and/or Greek context of the word "hate" is not always the way it is meant in English. For instance, Luke 14:26 (KJV) states "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Yet we know that we are not to hate in the manner (extreme dislike, loathing, etc) that we know the word to mean in English. I would like to look up the meaning of the word "hate" in the verses that you mentioned and see what the Hebrew meaning was as I'm sure it is different than we know it today. Because scripture also teaches us that "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." And also, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus". These verses use words "whosoever", "all" not "everyone except people that I previously said I hated".

  14. How about this verse I Peter 3:9
    Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called , that ye should inherit a blessing.
    You quote a lot of Old Testament (which you take way out of context because you have no wisdom and do not know what those verses are meaning when God is talking about hating Esau and loving Jacob) but what about the verses in the Bible that are about loving our enemies?
    Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. I think that would include these evil men and women as well.

  15. Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. I think this verse also includes these evil people.
    I Peter 3:9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called , that ye should inherit a blessing. We are not to hate others who do evil, we are not to return their evil with evil and hatred. Maybe you should research the Hebrew word for hate.


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